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Decals & badges
« on: February 25, 2016, 04:09:03 PM »
Hi all,
Can someone tell me what decals/badges are meant to be on my 1949 BSA C11?

Original badge is on tank, but I think there is supposed to be something on the toolbox & headstock.

Any info & advice welcome.

Duncan

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Re: Decals & badges
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2016, 05:02:03 PM »
I think there was a Piled Arms transfer on the head stock but I'm not sure which one. There are several available as BSA changed the detail several times over the years.

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Re: Decals & badges
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2016, 06:54:40 PM »
Thanks Ray.

Have seen a few, just want to get the right ones.

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« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2016, 07:32:54 AM »
My 1940 C has a pattern one on that's correct and I got it from the VMCC. The frame, although very rough, still had its original transfer on so I was able to match it with the right replacement before I had the frame blasted and painted.

I remember there were several to pick from and I'm unsure if my 1940 head stock transfer would be the correct one for your later frame, Duncan. This is the only sticker that was on the Cs in those austere times but the later models may have had a Piled Arms on the rear mudguard too.

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Re: Decals & badges
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2016, 10:01:06 AM »
It is quite simple actually:
Birmingham Small Arms Company (1911-1922)
BSA Cycles Ltd 1923 - 1952 black background (head stock and black toolbox)
BSA Cycles Ltd 1923 - 1952 transparent (petrol tank and coloured toolbox)
BSA Motor Cycles 1953 onwards
I think the explanatory notes on the VMCC site will confirm this. The guys at the transfer scheme are very knowledgable.
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Re: Decals & badges
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2016, 11:39:38 AM »
Thanks guys, that's a great help.

Duncan

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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2016, 11:19:38 PM »
Here is what is on my '53 C11, frame, tool box, and oil tank. Have no idea what that is on the oil tank. Sorry it took so long.
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Re: Decals & badges
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2016, 12:21:01 PM »
That looks like a dealer decal to me.
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2016, 12:43:21 PM »
I can only think that this came off the headstock of my C12, but there are no rivet marks there. I wish my memory was better.
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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2016, 10:52:14 AM »
Thanks guys, that's a great help.

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Re: Decals & badges
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2016, 07:14:02 AM »
I've got a metal Piled Arms like that on a bike, hb. It's on the headstock of a Goldie competition frame built by Eric Cheney in his early days that I swopped for a standard road-going Gold Star frame over forty years ago.

I've always assumed the metal badge was a BSA spare part or, if not, I thought maybe Cheney had a batch made with the factory's blessing because they were always glad of his help.


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Re: Decals & badges
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2016, 08:05:15 AM »
I did have an A7/10 s/a frame that my son dug out of a garden. More than likely off that then.
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2016, 08:25:33 AM »
I've never seen one on an A7 frame, hb, just the normal transfer.

My Cheney frame is one of his early shed-built ones - all hand welded from Renolds 531 tube. It's a really nice frame and I started putting it together with a DBD34 motor nailed in about four years ago. I made good progress in a few weeks, had it well on the way & looking like a proper bike again - suspension, wheels, tanks, brackets and stuff,  but  . . .

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Re: Decals & badges
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2016, 12:07:23 AM »
I can only think that this came off the headstock of my C12, but there are no rivet marks there. I wish my memory was better.
I would have thought it was more likely to have been fitted to a BSA pushbike.
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« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2016, 09:16:51 AM »
I never thought of that, Mr A, I reckon old Eric Cheney got his badges from a BSA cycle dealer fifty to sixty years ago.

I'll now keep an eye out for Classic Beeza push bikes!

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