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Offline Dstep

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Interesting old battery
« on: March 02, 2016, 05:09:09 AM »
I was doing an inventory on my first "C" that I bought in '69, took apart in '70, and have toting around in boxes for 46 years. I found this battery and cover, I wondered if it is original. Plastic or rubber case, with a tar top. Has anyone seen one like it? No makers marks.
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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2016, 06:35:55 AM »
I've got a couple of those and that's all that was available until the Japs re-invented batteries in the '60s.

They were Lucas as original fitment and aftermarket ones were usually Chloride round here. You hollow them out and put a little modern one inside and they look better than the fibreglass replicas.

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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2016, 07:51:58 AM »
I bought this one last year in a little militaria shop in France. It's the first real WD one I've ever owned and of course it doesn't work. I've fitted it to one of my bikes just for display. It's dated 1943.

 I tell everyone that I was walking on the beach at Arrowmanches and I stubbed my toe on it in the sand. That usually creates some " Wow Really?" comments.

All the others I have are fairly good replicas with a Cyclon gell battery inside.  Ron 

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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2016, 03:49:14 PM »
Did you buy it in the militaria shop actually in Arromanches? He's got a lot of interesting stock, and most at a lot of money, too!

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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2016, 04:51:06 PM »
Yes I did Tman. He had a ticket on it for E65 and he took my first offer of E50 (£38). I would have paid his initial asking price, just to have such a piece of history for my collection. In all the times I've been in that shop, I've never seen anything within my interest or price range. Ron

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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2016, 05:26:35 PM »
Dsteps batterie could be of German make.

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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2016, 05:00:58 AM »
Seems a shame to hollow it out and ruin an old piece of history. But I guess it is not good for much else. Too bad it can't be fixed.
I remember when I was young, taking an old battery into a repair shop and asking if it could be fixed. The old guy (about 40), wearing a leather apron and sleeveless T-shirt, gave a grunt and started in on it. He cut the top out, knocked it apart, put in new innards, soldered them together, tarred the top and I had a new battery. Don't imagine he lived very long, steaming pots of lead and tar everywhere. Can you imagine health and safety looking over an operation like that today.
What makes you think it is German, Michael?
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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2016, 12:01:36 PM »
I can make mold and make dummy in black plastic
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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2016, 01:18:30 PM »
Bart, if you can do that I'd buy at least 2  ;D

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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2016, 03:54:46 PM »
Hi Dsteps,

I think the batterie has not the Lucas dimensions in length, width, high.
so it won´t fit not perfect to the c10 battery holder.
The Lucas one is a bit wider.

I will look in my stuff; I think there is still an unused old German battery (used on NSU, Zündapp or BMW).
Let me know, if you are interested in measurements. So I will check the size.

I have since a long time BRITISH ONLY bikes and use always dummy boxes (Lucas sizes) with modern batteries inside.

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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2016, 08:35:39 PM »
If ron will sent me his one i can copy  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2016, 06:27:28 AM »
Interesting subject, I have an old one with KING OF THE ROAD and scene cast into the side.

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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2016, 06:56:01 AM »
If ron will sent me his one i can copy  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bart, A French friend of mine 'Arnaud' has borrowed my battery and is making perfect replicas. Even with a dummy top and the caps for the acid. He can provide them with dates from 1940-44. Of course these are specifically WD /|\ .  Ron

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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2016, 09:16:29 AM »
Out of interest. Here is the incredible copy that Arnaud made from my original battery. The dummy top has holes in the Pos/Neg posts to pass wires through to connect to a modern battery inside. He's also going to send me a much better copy of a 'T' battery than the current ones available, for my Enfield WD/L.

The 3rd picture is the WD batteries that another friend in UK has been getting made for a few years now.  Ron

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Re: Interesting old battery
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2016, 02:30:58 PM »
Ron,

Would this look out of place on my 1945 C11?

Tony