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Offline MilitaryRon

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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2019, 05:44:41 am »
I think Thomas has got this covered now.  :)  Ron

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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2019, 06:49:23 am »
Yes, Gerhard has the papers in his mailbox.  :)
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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2019, 07:53:37 am »
I've heard through my Dutch and Belgium friends, that they also have problems registering an untitled vehicle.

Well done Thomas!   Ron

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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2019, 08:42:43 am »
Still several mentions of his email address showing Owen.

Andy

I think I have deleted them all now.
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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #34 on: February 11, 2019, 08:56:27 am »
Yes, one can make interesting experiences on the continent. 

For my two brit bikes I was confronted with a bunch of ridiculous requests. For instance, they wanted a specific headlamp glass for high and low beam (never existed), definite information from the manufacturer about the engine power (never given by the manufacturer) , information about maximum load etc. For my Sunbeam the outcome was a maximum weight of 250 kg so that I could only drive the machine illegally (I weight more than 55 kg). The reason was an “unknown frame material”. I then referred to the sidecar connections mentioning that in old times dad and mum were on the bike and the two children plus the dog in the sidecar (well, plus luggage). The engineer then gave me 350kg total weight and my wife and me are now together illegal, ha!   

One needs a lot of luck to meet engineers with a sense for vintage motorcycles.   
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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2019, 09:06:26 am »
It's called progress Thomas.
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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2019, 09:41:17 am »
No Mr Hampshirebiker its called European  Bureaucracy .
The desire to control and interfere with every tiny aspect of everyones life.

Is that too political?

Us plebs on a site for the owners of an obselete machine can solve a problem created by a vast organisation in a couple of days by conferring and co-operating, if the said organisation had to do the same it wouuld take decades.

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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2019, 09:58:26 am »
obselete machine
Obsolete!!!  I don't  think so....   :o

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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2019, 10:14:26 am »
Hallo,

vielen Dank an Thomas , habe alle Papiere die ich benötige . Super Sache .
Zu meiner Frage bezüglich Originalität. Gab es diese Ausführung ,Farbe ( helles rot ) , Chrom Tank , Linierung an meiner C11 Deluxe Model so original oder wurde die Restaurierung so wie meine aussieht nach Fantasie gemacht ?
Mir persönlich gefällt sie in diesem Look, Aussehen sehr gut und ich werde nichts verändern .

vielen Dank nochmal !

mit freundlichen Grüßen aus Österreich

Gerhard

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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #39 on: February 11, 2019, 10:19:12 am »
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No Mr Hampshirebiker its called European  Bureaucracy...

No, no, that isn't European bureaucracy. It's an attitude you can find at many places for many issues (e.g. in the UK). One could well define it as positive - German accuracy and safety, for instance. It's a question of viewpoint. Who generalises generally lies.
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1937 Sunbeam Model 9
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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #40 on: February 11, 2019, 10:29:55 am »
Zum Profilbild , lässt sich nicht drehen . am computer steht das bild richtig. beim hochladen auf dem kopf verkehrt . sorry

mit freundlichen grüßen

gerhard

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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #41 on: February 11, 2019, 11:52:06 am »
Sorry Thomas, I should have said European Union bureaucracy.

I have ridden  such machines quite safely for over 50yrs, none of them fulfilled the requirements listed above, none of them needed any of it. No one died, had accidents caused by the lack of.
I also drive a Morris Minor, another obselete machine with none of the above. Near me a scrap yard has piles of less than ten year old  so called "quality" cars stacked high, A class Mercs; Smarts, Volvo BMW Audi scrapped because the modern technology insisted up by EU render them past repair.
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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #42 on: February 11, 2019, 12:32:59 pm »
No apologies necessary, George! And I understand that you mean the EU bureaucracy.
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I have ridden  such machines quite safely for over 50yrs...
Yes, but if everybody takes this position we would have a mess on the roads. I imagine the large number of vehicles going through the hands of the testers. They proof  the technique with their signature. And after all, if you want to run a complicated governmend or even a EU out of many countries, you simply need a complex bureaucracy. That’s the same in the UK. So, I complain about single engineers without imagination but I do not complain about a European-wide harmonized bureaucracy.
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I also drive a Morris Minor…
Yes, the expression “quality” is somewhat flexible…  ;D


Best, Thomas
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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #43 on: February 11, 2019, 03:16:24 pm »
In Belgium it is  easy to re register an old bike with no paperwork.
no difficult questions about weight , ,,,,,,, :)
every model from C10 '39 to C12'58  exept C12'40
and others

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Re: C11 Baujahr 1946
« Reply #44 on: February 11, 2019, 03:23:06 pm »
Thanks Bart....for bringing thread back on to topic ;D
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