My bikes, the cooking models, all chugg up hills and trundle around at low revs when needed, Cosmik, because they're running at full retard.
The only way we differ, I'd think, is that I usually know what my timing is set at and you don't. When my 650 Triumph is running to my satisfaction, after it's engine renovation this month, I'll check where the timing is set with a degree plate so I can replicate it easily if the points have to come apart.
Ray